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	<title>Comments on: Dongtini — Episode 101</title>
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	<description>A Podcast by Simone Turkington and Stephanie Drury</description>
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		<title>By: Simone</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2014 05:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Debates over whether disease is caused be demons or germs! I hadn&#039;t even thought of that stupid possibility. I can&#039;t wait to mention it next time I&#039;m confronted with creationist stupidity! Only the Christian Scientists (that I know of) have a way out!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debates over whether disease is caused be demons or germs! I hadn&#8217;t even thought of that stupid possibility. I can&#8217;t wait to mention it next time I&#8217;m confronted with creationist stupidity! Only the Christian Scientists (that I know of) have a way out!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephy</title>
		<link>http://dongtini.com/2014/02/12/dongtini-episode-101/#comment-2299</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are a delightful commenter, Eugene. So fun and thoughtful. Top shelf Dongtini grade!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a delightful commenter, Eugene. So fun and thoughtful. Top shelf Dongtini grade!</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
		<link>http://dongtini.com/2014/02/12/dongtini-episode-101/#comment-2298</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s true, when you believe something really hard and you get confronted with the opposite you do tend to dig in harder BUT that shouldn&#039;t discourage people from trying.  Case in point, I used to be a young earth creationist and when I first got confronted by the evidence for Evolution I tried to shut it out as hard as I could but in the end the truth won out for me.

In the end it came down to one question for me - stupid or evil?  All these scientists from diverse disciplines who live all over the world and have all kinds of religious beliefs all look at the evidence and support evolution so for creationism to be true those scientists have to be either stupid (too dense to see the obvious truth of creation) or evil (they know evolution is false but they have an agenda to hide the truth).  Since I know a fair amount of scientists and since I studied science myself I knew that it was neither of those things.  

What I realized is that people who accept evolution do so because that&#039;s where all the evidence is pointing.  On the other hand creationists - even when they have fancy science degrees - are not a bunch of baffled skeptics.  They didn&#039;t believe in evolution but then saw all the evidence for creationism and then changed their minds, they were religious first and then adjusted their ideas from there.  Which is silly because this is all based on a literal reading of Genesis and as Stephy pointed out, it&#039;s clearly not meant to be read that way!  OK to be fair perhaps the people who wrote Genesis believed it was literal truth, who knows but so what?  You don&#039;t see debates on whether disease is caused by demons or germs even though the Bible doesn&#039;t mention germs anywhere and instead blames all diseases on either evil spirits or divine punishment.  So where are the Bible literalists defending the evil spirit theory of disease against the secular onslaught of germ theory?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true, when you believe something really hard and you get confronted with the opposite you do tend to dig in harder BUT that shouldn&#8217;t discourage people from trying.  Case in point, I used to be a young earth creationist and when I first got confronted by the evidence for Evolution I tried to shut it out as hard as I could but in the end the truth won out for me.</p>
<p>In the end it came down to one question for me &#8211; stupid or evil?  All these scientists from diverse disciplines who live all over the world and have all kinds of religious beliefs all look at the evidence and support evolution so for creationism to be true those scientists have to be either stupid (too dense to see the obvious truth of creation) or evil (they know evolution is false but they have an agenda to hide the truth).  Since I know a fair amount of scientists and since I studied science myself I knew that it was neither of those things.  </p>
<p>What I realized is that people who accept evolution do so because that&#8217;s where all the evidence is pointing.  On the other hand creationists &#8211; even when they have fancy science degrees &#8211; are not a bunch of baffled skeptics.  They didn&#8217;t believe in evolution but then saw all the evidence for creationism and then changed their minds, they were religious first and then adjusted their ideas from there.  Which is silly because this is all based on a literal reading of Genesis and as Stephy pointed out, it&#8217;s clearly not meant to be read that way!  OK to be fair perhaps the people who wrote Genesis believed it was literal truth, who knows but so what?  You don&#8217;t see debates on whether disease is caused by demons or germs even though the Bible doesn&#8217;t mention germs anywhere and instead blames all diseases on either evil spirits or divine punishment.  So where are the Bible literalists defending the evil spirit theory of disease against the secular onslaught of germ theory?</p>
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